Left fuel tank stuff – senders, access plates, oh my!

When we left off last night, I’d just started to play with the capacitive fuel sender plates. This morning, I got right back on that. I started by repeating last night’s work for the inboard plate – locating and drilling the mount holes in the tank rib. Next, I needed to install the nutplates for the rib-to-plate attachments. These use flush-head rivets, which are kind of unnecessary since the plate doesn’t butt up against anything, but whetever. If I’d had some round-head -3 rivets I probably would have used this, but I didn’t. I did decide to try something new – instead of using the standard 426 rivets for the nutplates, I used NAS1097 rivets. These are commonly referred to as “oops” rivets, because their flush head is smaller than normal, corresponding to the next smaller size rivet. So for example, if you’re driving skin rivets, mess one up, drill it out, and mess up the hole, you can simply drill the hole out to #30 and install a NAS1097 rivet – the head will fit the existing dimple, while the shaft is larger to fit the hole.

Anyway, NAS1097-3 rivets also work well for nutplates – instead of having to either countersink for the larger head, or else dimple and then worry about maybe dimpling the nutplate, you just make a very shallow countersink and there’s much less drama. The countersink is in fact small enough that it’s easily done by hand. The smaller head isn’t an issue because these rivets see basically no stress – their function is simply to hold the nutplate in place and keep it from twisting while the screw/bolt is installed.

After riveting the nutplates on both plates, I installed them on the ribs using the provided spacers. Here’s the outboard assembly:

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For once, this wasn’t just me putting things together just for fun. The assemblies need to be test-fitted in the tank to ensure proper clearance with the stiffeners; the instructions call for at least 3/16” between the two. So I got to work clecoing the two ribs into the skin. The inboard assembly was fine – the outboard one, not so much:

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The instructions allow for trimming either the stiffener or the plate. I figured the plate was a better bet since it has about 20 times more material than the stiffener. So I marked where the stiffeners contacted the plate, removed the assembly, marked out cut lines, roughed it out with the bandsaw, cleaned up the cuts, and did the whole test fitting thing again.

Much better:

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That’s about all that can be done with the sender plates for now. Actually, all that remains is installing the BNC connector on the inboard rib and running the wire connecting the plates; I’ll leave that until the tanks are closer to final assembly, since doing that bit of work required tank sealant.

So I turned my attention to the inboard ribs. These need to be cut for the tank access plates, which means cutting a nice 5.25” diameter circle. The “standard” tool for doing this is a fly cutter, a nasty little thing that lots of people seem to consider dangerous. I’d looked at getting one before and determined that it could probably be had at the Ace Hardware by the house, so I took a field trip over there. Alas, they did not have such a thing. I started to order one from Amazon, but then got to researching and found where a VAF member had tried a different tool, a hole-cutting mill thingy used by HVAC people to cut holes. Oh, and it was available at Home Depot. It was more expensive than the fly cutter, but I could get it today, and it did seem a lot safer to use. So I made another field trip to Home Depot and came home with this:

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Basically, there’s a milling bit that goes in the left part and is attached to a drill. The center pivot is set to the desired hole size, a center hole is drilled, and then you just pivot the whole assembly in that center hole while milling a nice circle. The thing worked quite nicely, and soon I had two nice access holes:

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Next we need the access plate screw holes around the perimeter. The plate has prepunched screw holes, so it can be used as a handy drill guide. After drilling the screw holes in both ribs, I clecoed the plate and interior doubler in place just so show the setup.

Exterior side:

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Interior side:

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Normally these plates would mount both the fuel pickup and the float-type fuel sender, but I’m not using the floats in favor of the capacitive senders, and only one of my tanks will get the normal fuel pickup. I decided to mount a flop tube in the right tank to allow for sustained inverted flight. I don’t exactly have any plans to do a bunch of upside-down flying – which would also require an inverted oil system – but I figure I might as well build this in while I’m doing the tanks rather than finding occasion to retro fit the flop tube down the road. About the only downside to doing this is that the flop tubes do wear out after a while – they get stiff and can potentially not have enough flop left to get to the fuel in the bottom of a tank. So this will be something I’ll have to keep an eye on and potentially replace. General consensus seems to be that the life of a flop tube is five years or so. (I considered putting flop tubes in both tanks, but then I’d lose some redundancy if both tubes got stiff at about the same rate. With a standard pickup in one tank, I can count on the left tank always being able to get maximum usable fuel out of the tank.)

Anyway, the main point of that is that the flop tube, unlike the normal pickup, has its fitting towards the forward end of the rib. So the access plate for the right tank needs no modification. The left plate, however, gets drilled for the AN fuel fitting as well as the anti-rotation bracket. That bracket, true to its name, prevents the fitting from rotating, which could potentially pull the pickup out of the usable fuel, which would be…undesirable.

After drilling those two holes, I temporarily installed the fitting and bracket to get a look at the layout:

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The bracket needs to be deburred before it’s riveted on, and it’ll also need sealant between it and the plate (as will the fitting), so no for-real installation just yet. Actually, I need to take care of the pickup itself first. The plans have you make your own pickup out of tubing, but most folks seem to buy prefab pickups from Van’s instead. I’m kind of torn between ordering the prefab – which would prevent me from working on this plate any more until late next week –  or just going ahead and making my own. Decisions, decisions.

In any case, there was stuff to be done around the house, so I called it a day. Got some stuff going on tomorrow, but I may have a couple hours to get out in the garage anyway. If so, I’ll probably get the cap and drain flanges fitted and drilled. That should be relatively straightforward, good for a short day. I can also drill the inboard ribs for the fuel sender connector and the tank vent line fitting – at which point I think I’ll have most of the pre-assembly stuff done, save for deburring and dimpling the tank skins and ribs. These tanks are coming together pretty quickly! (so far…

Posted in Fuel Tanks, Wings | Hours Logged: 6

Left attach angles, fuel sender plates

Work continues on the left tank while I wait for my replacement rib. With pretty much everything match drilled, I moved on to working on the end rib reinforcements. The outboard end of the tank just gets a plate riveted on its inside face, while the inboard rib get that plate along with one of the attach angles I fabled up last weekend. This angle will eventually attach to the fuselage to help carry the weight of the tank.

To start with, I laid out the rivet hole locations based on the plans:

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Then I center punched those locations and went over to the drill press to drill the holes:

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Now the angle can be used as a drill guide for the rest of the assembly. The fun here is that according to the instructions you should clamp everything in place and drill it in assembly. Easier said than done, since both the angle and the plate need to be carefully located, but on opposite sides of the rib. After (unsuccessfully) trying a couple ways to do this, I came up with a better idea. First I just clamped the angle in place, then drilled two of the rivet holes. Next I removed the angle, flipped the rib over, and clamped the reinforcement plate in place. Then I used the two holes I’d just drilled i the rib as a guide to drill two holes in the reinforcement plate. Now I was able to cleco the whole assembly together and drill the remaining four holes in assembly.

The finished assembly clecoed together:

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I also used the newly-drilled inboard reinforcement plate as a guide to drill the outboard plate, then I clamped that plate in place on the outboard rib and drilled it too.

I wasn’t quite ready to call it a night though. So what next? I decided to look at the capacitive fuel sender plates. I reread the instructions, got out the pertinent ribs for the left tank, and started by drilling the mount holes in the rib for the outboard sender plate. The assembly is drilled to #21 and then the rib holes are enlarged to 1/4”. The reason for the larger holes in the ribs is that the screws that will attach the sender plate will be surrounded by nylon tubing, presumably to ensure the plate is electrically isolated from the rib.

Interestingly, while there are two sender plates per tank, there’s only one wire that connects both plates to a single-terminal connector that will be mounted on the inboard rib. Somehow I was expecting there two be two wires, one to each plate, with the sender measuring capacitance between the plates. I can only assume that in fact the capacitance is measured between the two plates and the tank structure itself. Maybe the outer screw portion of the connector is the “other” terminal? I’m going to ask on VAF about this. Not that I’m worried about doing things wrong – the instructions are pretty clear – but mainly because I’m just curious, and I like to know how things work.

Anyway, here’s that outboard rib with the plate resting on top of the spacers that hold it away from the rib. Basically just a quick look at how the plate arrangement will look:

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Tomorrow I suppose I’ll keep moving on the sender plates, and maybe after that, I can do the flanges for the fuel cap and tank drain.

Posted in Fuel Tanks, Wings | Hours Logged: 2

Match-drilled left tank

I went out to the garage with pretty low expectations tonight. I figured I’d aim to shoot all the main wing rib rivets that I could manage by myself, and then just kind of wing it from there. Well, there were exactly three ribs I could do solo, so that took all of about…maybe 30 minutes. Josie is busy working overtime for a big work project, so I couldn’t recruit her to come out and help rivet.

One of my main short-term goals is to get this right wing skeleton finished so I can clear it off the workbench; right now workspace is hard to come by. Between Josie’s unavailability and needing to wait for that replacement rib (which should be here Monday), it seemed that being productive this weekend was going to be tough. So I decided to abandon riveting on the right wing skeleton for the time being, and we moved it over to the wing stand. That freed me up to do some more work on the left tank.

First order of business was to drill the attach screw holes on the outboard edge of the tank. These screws will go into nutplates that will be on the W-423 joint plate. This was pretty straightforward, but before drilling, I double-checked everything to ensure that the tank was in the proper place. It’s been a couple weeks since I last set it up there, and it’d be really annoying to misdrill holes because I didn’t verify alignment and such.

Here’s a picture of a #19 hole for one of the screws. Exciting, huh?

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From here, I’d figured I’d pull the tank off and start looking at all the various internal parts. But then it occurred to me – I already had the thing clecoed together, and it was going to need to be match-drilled at some point…might as well take care of that now. First I pulled the tank off the spar, set it in the cradle, and match-drilled the baffle-to-rib holes. For the skin-to-rib holes, I put it back in place on the spar; the cradle limits access to some of those holes.

With that done, I marked the ribs and pulled the whole tank apart again:

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I was on a roll, so I figured I’d go ahead and get all the match-drilling done. The only things left were the stiffeners for the bottom of the tank, which I cut and prepped a few days ago. So i got those out, clecoed them in place, and match-drilled them too.

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The only prepunched holes that still need attention now are the attach screw holes along the aft edge of the skin. These just need to be drilled out to final size. However, I seem to recall reading something about problems with these holes cracking when dimpled. I think there was a specific approach to prevent those cracks, so I’m going to research that before I do anything.

I suppose tomorrow I’ll really get into the nuts and bolts of the tank’s innards.

Posted in Fuel Tanks, Wings | Hours Logged: 3

Removed a rib

So I ended up shooting an email to the support folks at Van’s for their input on my bad rivet from Monday. A few guys on VAF had indicated that the rivet might be OK to leave as-is. I liked the idea of not drilling it out, but I was skeptical of it being good. So I figured I’d ask the official authority. Sadly, the response was not what I’d hoped for – I was advised to remove/replace the rivet. Not a particularly surprising response though.

On the way home from work today, I stopped by Home Depot and bought myself a work light. The general garage lighting is OK, but not great, but I don’t have the freedom to install a bunch of fluorescent strips like I did in Atlanta. I’d figured I’d end up getting a tripod light for lighting specific tasks at some point, and today was the day. Nothing fancy, but I did spring for the LED light over a halogen model. I’ve worked with the halogens before and they get HOT. I’m in Houston, I don’t need any more heat in the garage.

Look, a light!

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It brightens up the work area quite nicely:

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But enough fun and games, time to get down to business. Best-case scenario, I’d remove the one bad rivet without damaging anything, replace it, and be on my way. The challenge was getting the head off with it so far off-center. I drilled into the head as normal, attempting to be conservative, and got the head off, but it was to no avail – I’d put a little divot in the rib flange right beside the rivet hole.

The good news was that I went into this figuring there was a good chance I’d end up trashing the rib, so I was mentally prepared for something like this. And in a way, it was liberating – once I knew the rib was going away, I no longer needed to be careful with it. That freed me up to not have to be perfect while removing the other four rivets, and once they were off, I could just wrench the rib out of place with no regard for its survival.

That, however, was the easy part. Solid rivets swell when they’re driven, so a lot of their grip strength comes not from the heads, but from friction between the rivet shaft and its hole. That means that the thicker the material, the more grip there is from the shaft – which means that they’re a lot harder to drive out for replacement. I always get worried doing this, because I have to hit the punch pretty hard, which makes me worry about the punch slipping and damaging something. That worry goes up a notch when that something is the main wing spar.

Fortunately, I’ve developed a method for getting these rivets out that works pretty well. Once I have the head off, I start by drilling a very small pilot hole into the rivet shaft. Once that hole’s done and I’m convinced it’s well-centered, I open the hole up with a #40 drill. This is smaller than the #30 hole the rivet sits in, so I have some wiggle room. The point if doing this is twofold: it removes material to give the rivet room to deform and let go of the hole, and it also makes a nice “socket” into which I can insert the punch to drive the rivet out. No more worries about the punch slipping!

Even with all that, these things are tough to get out. I’ve taken to using the rivet gun with a flush set to drive the punch instead of tapping it with a hammer, and every one of these five rivets required that technique. None of them would budge with hammer hits.

But I got them out, and all the holes in the spar are in good shape. It cost me a rib, but that’s a small price to pay. It’s a $20 part after all.

I wanted to take another picture, but I didn’t know what to take a picture of. So here’s a picture of the rivets after I drove them out of their holes:

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Started riveting right wing skeleton

Popped out into the garage tonight figuring I could get going with the right wing skeleton. First I had to cleco all those ribs to the main spar, which was fairly straightforward…until I got to one rib that seemed off. Oh, that’s because I drilled the mount holes for the wiring conduit on the wrong side of the lightening hole. Well, good thing I still had the little jig I made sitting around. Two more holes and all was well.

I started with the inboard wing walk ribs. The first one went nicely, and the second one seemed to be going OK, but while examining the manufactured heads I noticed one seemed out of alignment with the others. Upon closer investigation, I somehow managed to really smear the head badly.

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So now I need to replace that rivet. Problem is, when drilling a rivet out, you use a dimple on the manufactured head as a center punch to get started. Well, that’s not much good when the manufactured head is fouled up like this. I posted some photos to the brain trust at VAF to get some suggestions on how to drill this thing out. I’m not much looking forward to it, since these long rivets grip a lot and require a lot of force to dislodge.

Anyway, I called it a night there. No need to push on and maybe mess up more stuff while I’m distracted and a little miffed by the mistake.

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Primed right wing main ribs

Well, this hasn’t been a particularly productive weekend in terms of hours worked, but getting these wing ribs primed removes a fairly significant bottleneck for me. I’ve been hesitant to keep working on the left wing for the tim being; I’d prefer to be able to perform tasks on both wings pretty close together, to cut down on “how did I do this before?” moments. Plus, since I match-drilled the right wing, the right main spar has been sitting on my workbench, cause I don’t really have any other good place to store it. Hence why I’ve been focusing on gabbing up parts for both tanks recently.

Anyway, today I didn’t get to work until the afternoon, but i got the ribs scrubbed , dried, and primed. After some touch-up work, they’re now stacked int he garage where they can dry tonight and tomorrow. Hopefully tomorrow I can get to working on riveting the right skeleton together. No photos today…

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Tank attach angles

Well, we had quite a day out here. We decided to run down to the beach with dogs and make a half-day or so out of it. Unfortunately, things got interesting on the way home – the car overheated. Seems I have a bit of a cooling system leak somewhere. I managed to make it home without any more overheating, but at the cost of driving with the heater running full blast. In the Houston summer heat. Actually, it wasn’t that bad on the highway, except for my feet getting thoroughly cooked. I now know that this car’s heater is tremendously effective.

Anyway, by the time we got home, I was tired again and I took a nap. Then it was finally out to the garage, where I got to work on the T-405 tank attach angles. I’m glad I decided not to try to do these last night; they weren’t terribly difficult, but there was a lot of time-consuming “how should I do this…” along the way. If I’d put some time pressure on myself to finish it last night, I might well have messed something up.

First, the chunk of angle gets cut to the rough length of the attach piece:

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One side gets a symmetrical round profile, while the other is shaped to fit inside the nose of the inboard tank rib. I used one of the reinforcement plates as a pattern for this. Here’s the cut line I made on the first angle:

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Roughly cut to size in the bandsaw. I did a fair amount of vixen file work to fine-tune the shape, but I can’t remember if this photo is before or after I did that:

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Then it’s over to the bench grinder to remove all those nasty tooling marks and make all the corners nice and smooth:

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The second angle went a lot quicker, mainly because I could just use the first one as a pattern instead of having to carefully lay out cut lines. Here’s the pair:

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These will eventually get drilled to the tank ribs, but that will wait until I can get the right wing caught up with the left. Weather tomorrow looks good, so provided my local Napa has a good stock of 7220 primer, I can finally get those right wing ribs primed and then work on riveting that skeleton together.

I also took some time tonight and read through the instructions for the capacitive fuel sender kit. I can see that these tanks are going to take some time; there are lots of little details that have to be attended to. Fuel senders, access holes, vent lines, caps, drains…fun times!

Posted in Fuel Tanks, Wings | Hours Logged: 2.5

Tank stiffeners

So I had a good little mini-vacation this past weekend. I even got in a little flying while I was in Raleigh, doing an Arrow checkout up there. I’d hoped to be able to take my niece up for a flight, but unfortunately the weather on Monday and Tuesday wasn’t agreeable. While I was gone, my shipment from Van’s came in, in a nice wooden crate, which Josie got to manhandle into the house by herself (sorry babe). Wednesday night, I moved the crate into the garage, opened it, put everything away, and then tore the crate down. Hooray, more scrap wood! Then I took the rest of that night and last night off.

Tonight I decided to make all the tank stiffeners. These will be attached to the bottom skin between the ribs to provide, well, stiffness. After all, each of these tanks will hold 21 gallons of fuel, which weighs 126 pounds! The stiffeners come prepunched, but they’re also attached together into long strips that have to be cut to size using notches for reference. I finally learned my lesson here after making stiffeners for the tail: I removed the blue film before I cut the stiffeners to size. Much easier to remove the film from four long pieces than from 48 short pieces.

After a lot of work with the snips and a sore right hand, I had a pile of scrap pieces and a larger pile of very rough-edged stiffeners:

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Then it was time to spin up the bench grinder to clean up the edges. I gave that grinder a workout tonight – I probably ran it for about 40 minutes straight. When I was done, I had a bunch of nice smooth stiffeners:

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I was about 90 minutes into the evening at this point, but I didn’t quite feel like quitting, so I decided to look at fabricating the T-405 inboard tank attach angles. These get fabricated from raw angle and attach to the nose of the inboard rib on each tank. There’s also a reinforcement plate that goes on the inside nose of the inboard and outboard ribs on each tank. Since the attach angles are made to fit the contour of the nose rib, it seemed like a good idea to clean up the reinforcement plates first to use as a guide/pattern. So I broke them out, removed the film, and fired up the bench grinder yet again to take the corners and tooling marks off. Very nice:

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From here, I found the piece of raw angle that the T-405s are fabricated from. I briefly considered getting started on them, but it was getting late by this point, and I was a little worried about cutting corners if I decided to try and make them tonight. So I went inside instead; I’ll probably do the attach angles tomorrow. Actually, now that I look at the weather, tomorrow looks clear. If I can restock on primer tomorrow morning, I should take advantage of the good weather and get the right wing ribs primed. Maybe I can get the right wing skeleton riveted this weekend too. Right now the right main spar is living on the workbench because I don’t have a good place to store it. It’d be nice to have that whole workbench back…

Posted in Fuel Tanks, Wings | Hours Logged: 2

Right wing rib deburring

Just did a short stint in the garage tonight. My main goal right now is to get the right wing ribs to a point where I can prime them the next chance I have. So tonight I pulled the right skeleton apart, deburred everything, and undertook the tedious task of peeling off the little stickers that identify the parts. But now when I have a good weekend day, all I have to do is take them out back, clean them, and prime away.

I guess from here I’ll work on some of the small items for the tanks; some of those I can work on before the right tank is together, like the nose rib reinforcements and so forth (actually, the stiffeners would be a good target item here too). I also got a ship notification from Van’s today, so either late this week or early next week I should have my replacement skins and other stuff.

Also, a side note: I’ve been kind of dreading the upcoming messy task of sealing the tanks. A couple nights ago, a ran across a discussion on VAF about working with sealant. Rick, who apparently has worked on some big military projects, has some sealing techniques that are different from the Van’s instructions, but sound much less painful and messy. I’m glad I found that discussion, because I intend to use those techniques, and hopefully I won’t end up hating ProSeal as much as most people.

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Fitting left tank, right wing skeleton drilling

So when we left off yesterday, I’d victoriously dropped the fuel tank onto the spar, only to find that the joint plate was too wide. As such, the first order of business today was to fix that. First off, I measured the gap with the tank slid as far outboard as possible; this way I could tell what the minimum amount of material to remove would be. Turned out to be a hair over 1/8”. After removing the tank and measuring the exposed joint plate, it turned out that I needed to remove enough material to leave 11/16” of an inch showing. Which is – surprise! – exactly what the instructions said in the first place. Though, in my defense, the wording was something like “there should be 11/16” instead of “make sure there is exactly 11/6”.

Whatever. So I went ahead and marked a cut line all the way around the plate:

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I’d spent a bit of time mulling over the best way to make this cut, and I eventually settled on just using the snips. The downside of the snips is that they leave a rough surface that needs a fair amount of cleanup, but about the only other method I could think of was to use a Dremel cutoff wheel, which is just annoying and imprecise. So I pulled the plate off and went to town with the snips.

it was a long and tedious process; the plate, after all, is something like four feet long, and with it being curved, that just adds to the fun. By the time I finished the cut, my hand felt on the verge of cramping. Now I had a nasty rough edge, so I broke out the vixen file and went to work. This, too, proved to be difficult, as there wasn’t much of a good way to clamp the curved plate, so I ended up just holding it in one had while I filed. If this sounds iffy, good call. In the course of the filing, I learned that a vixen file will remove skin just as effectively as it will remove aluminum.

Finally, I had the thing cleaned up, and I finished it off in the bench grinder for a nice edge. All told the cutting, filing, and general cleanup took me almost an hour.

So I put the plate back in place, put the tank back on, and all was well. Now the tank sits nice and tight against the leading edge:

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With that done, it was time to drill the tank attach brackets. With the tank slid over in place, I put a couple of ratchet straps around the wing to hold the tank nice and snug:

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The inboard bracket is drilled first, because, well, it’s the only one visible. These holes are kind of nerve-racking to drill, what with the spar right under them. I used a drill stop for all these holes, and I checked the thing about every five holes to make sure it wasn’t coming loose. Soon, the inboard bracket was drilled:

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Next, the leading edge assembly comes off to reveal the outboard bracket, which can then be drilled:

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And finally, the clecos between the tank skin and the baffle and outboard ribs are removed, allowing the interior brackets to be drilled in place:

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Since I don’t really have anywhere to store the leading edge and tank assemblies, I just put them back on the spar for now. Then, I decided it was high time I got to working on the right wing, so I clecoed the right skeleton together and got it all match drilled. About this time, dinner showed up, so I decided to call it a night.

I’ll be out of town next weekend, so I guess the next opportunity to get the right ribs primed will be two weeks away. I suppose I’ll get them deburred this week so they’ll be ready to go when I get some good priming weather. In the meantime, I can work on some of the common tank pieces – there are a number of things to fab up, like stiffeners, mount plates, fuel lines, level sensors…yeah, no shortage of things to do.

Posted in Fuel Tanks, Wings | Hours Logged: 5