Final top skin riveting, pt I

Kind of a token night of work this time. I considered taking the night off, but I like the feeling of momentum I have on the project right now, so I figured I’d at least do a little bit.

What I wanted to work on was squeezing the rivets between the trailing edge of the top skins and the rear spar. Initially I tried squeezing those with the wings in the cradle, but that was rather challenging. So I got Josie to come out and help me move the right wing to the workbench:

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After a fair amount of squeezing, I had almost all the trailing edge rivets done:

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The remaining rivets are on the inboard end, where the spar channel is reinforced by a doubler. Access there is going to be tight, so I’m going to do those another night. I might actually have to shoots those, especially the lat few inboard ones, where there are two doublers. There’s just precious little space to work here, and I don’t think even the thin-nose squeezer yoke will work here: (also, I need to clean my camera lens)

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Wing storage cart

As planned, I went in and left work early today. Got home not too long after 5, changed, and went right to work on the wing cart. The tough part of this is that, since I was recycling the bases for the wing stands into the cart, once I started, I was committed to finishing this thing, unless I could find somewhere to lay the wings overnight.

First I unbolted/unclamped the wings from the stands, then got Josie to come out and help me carry them out of the garage. We just set them out in the grass while I worked:

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Then there was a lot of unscrewing and unbolting to take the stands off the bases and get the bases apart. I managed to get it done before it got dark, and so I was able to cut the long 2x6s to final length in daylight instead of having to set up a work light or something. Then I assembled the lower channel of the cart; this was a modification of the “normal” cart design I made. Instead of having a single plank serve as the cart’s “backbone,” I used two 2x6s, with a 2×4 in between. The result was a U-shaped channel at the bottom of the cart. I also added two more 2x6s at the top running lengthwise. This creates a nice little pocket between the wings where I can store the bottom wing skins, and thusly solves a logistical and organizational problem.

I was going to add some diagonal braces for stability, but with just the channel and two more 2x6s, this thing is pretty much rock-solid:

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With the bottom wing skins stored in the middle:

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Then I rolled the beast out into the driveway and we loaded the wings into it. Perfect fit!

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I quit at this point; it was almost 9 and I hadn’t even had dinner. I still need to clean up the garage from all this work and get things rearranged at some point. My next task on the wings will be squeezing all those remaining skin rivets, and then I can fit the flap brace and aileron gap fairing to each wing. I might be able to get the control surfaces done before the fuse kit arrives in a couple weeks; if not, it won’t be a huge deal.

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Rivet QA, wing cart work

Tonight I just went out, inspected the rivets we shot last night, and marked the few that needed to be shot a little more. All told it was maybe 20 or so, not bad at all. It would have been a short work session, except that last night Josie also pointed out that the rivets through the leading edge skin and into the spar looked like their shop heads were undersize. Sure enough, I checked and they were. Guess I was a little overeager that night. I got out the squeezer and easily fixed all of the rivets on the bottom, but the tops ones were now inaccessible since the top skins were on. So after fixing the few bad rivets from last night, we went down the line on both wings and hit up all those LE rivets again.

So tomorrow I’m going to go in to work early so I can head out early and shoot for getting the wings off the stands and the storage cart built. I did run into a slight hiccup tonight – I bought some adhesive foam weatherstripping to pad the end of the cart where the leading edge will sit in it, but when I tried a test-fit with the wings, the weatherstripping gripped the LE skin and pulled right off the wood face. So that’s not going to work like I’d hoped. I may need to get a different material or something, I dunno. Or I could cut narrow strips of the carpet I have lying around and attach it with carpet tape, but that’ll be tedious.

Update: I went out and played with the cart stuff again. This time I stuck the weatherstripping in place with carpet tape instead of relying on the rather weal weatherstripping adhesive. I also left the paper backing on the non-adhesive side of the weatherstripping to promote it not sticking to the aluminum skin. End result: it goes onto the leading edge nicely.

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Wing skin riveting done*

We jumped right into skin riveting after dinner tonight. Not really a lot to comment on, just more of the same stuff from the last couple of times. Only difference is that we got through the rest of the right skin tonight. I won’t quite say we’re “done” done, since I still want to go and check the shop heads. If the left skin is any indication, there will be a handful we’ll need to go back and hit up a touch more. But enough is enough for tonight.

Finished* right wing top skin:

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I did make a slight boo-boo on one rivet. Guess I held the gun at a bit of an angle and put a little smiley face dent under the rivet. No worries though, it’ll disappear under the paint:

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Wing skin riveting and other stuff

Unsurprisingly, the main task of the day was to keep going on skin riveting. Around early afternoon the left wing was all done:

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Well, except for those clecos at the bottom. Those are the skin-spar rivets, and they’d be tough to get to in this position, but are accessible with the squeezer. So I figure I’ll just squeeze all of those after I get the wings off the stands and in the cradle.

The seam between the two skins doesn’t quite sit flush though. It occurred to me as I was clecoing these skins in place prior to riveting that maybe I should roll the edge of that top skin a bit. Some research indicated that other builders were about 50-50 on doing this, but the most important thing I learned is that you have to roll the edge before dimpling. So that particular ship had already sailed, nothing to do but shoot as-is and hope for the best.

It’s really not that bad, and I imagine it’ll disappear under paint:

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Later in the evening, we got through about half of the rivets on the right inboard skin before deciding that it was time to call it a night. Amusingly, around this time we also noticed that Dude had laid down and gone to sleep out in the garage – while we were shooting rivets. Even though the Mutt Muffs block out sound, that’s still quite a racket to sleep through:

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In other news, I took advantage of more good weather to do some wood-cutting to prepare for building the wing cart. We made a midday trip to Home Depot for supplies and material, and I should have everything I need now. I made the cutouts in one end of the cart for the leading edge to fit in, and cut some of the 2×4 and 2×6 braces that also go on those end pieces. That just leaves me needing to cut four 2x6s to length after I take apart the wing stands, and to make a few more corner braces from other wing stand scrap. I figure that with the days starting to get longer again, I can always bail out of work a little early one day this week so I can make the last cuts while it’s still daylight.

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Aileron stiffener priming, wing skin riveting

Finally got some skin riveting done! But first some good news – I flew again with Joy in the Citabria this morning and after the flight, she flipped to the back of my logbook and endorsed me as a competent tailwheel pilot. I’ll still be flying with her though – she requires 15 hours dual before I can solo her plane. So I’m thinking that in addition to doing the usual pattern work, I’ll ask about some spin training and maybe even aerobatics. Anything’s better than just buzzing endlessly in circles around the airport…

Anyway, back at home, I again decided to take advantage of the nice weather, so instead of jumping right into skin riveting, I went ahead and cleaned, scuffed, and primed all those aileron stiffeners:

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Then we went to work on the skin rivets. We started off using the back rivet set, and I was able to set acceptable rivets, but only just so. Even the ones I set had the shop heads smearing a little off-center, despite me attempts to be really careful. We also had one rivet sitting pretty proud on the skin side; I dunno of Josie let off the big bucking bar for a second or what. In any case, I decided to ditch the whole back riveting thing. I felt that while it worked OK, it wasn’t conducive to getting consistently good results; if the best I could do while being careful was to end up with rivets where I said, “I guess that’s OK,” that doesn’t bode well for the rivets I’ll shoot after a couple hours of work.

So we switched to just using the usual mushroom set. I shot from the skin side while Josie bucked on the other side. It didn’t take long to get into a pretty good rhythm, though we had to take frequent breaks for her sake. She had a harder job than me contorting her arm to hold the bucking bar, especially inboard with the closely-spaced wing walk ribs. But we didn’t have any bad rivets that needed to be drilled out, which is a much better record than we had with the back riveting.

We got all the rivets on the left inboard skin done, and about half on the outboard skin, before deciding to call it a night:

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I think we should have no trouble getting the rest of these things set tomorrow. Hopefully if we get an early start I’ll have time to go get the materials for the wing cart and at least do the work that requires daylight. The fun part about the wing cart is that I’m going to reuse the lumber from the wing stand bases – which means I’ll have to take the wings off the stands and set them aside somewhere while I build the cart. We’ll see how that works out…

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Aileron stiffener match drilling and dimpling

Tonight I clecoed all the aileron stiffeners in place on their skins and match drilled:

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Then I deburred the holes and dimpled the stiffeners:

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I wasn’t quite ready to quit, so I found a small stupid job to take up a little more time. There are four aileron spar reinforcement plates to be made. There are four .040” alclad pieces already cut to size, they just need the corners rounded and the edges cleaned up:

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A little work on the bench grinder and they’re looking good:

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Tomorrow I think we really will get some riveting done. I’ll probably also make a Home Depot run this weekend to get materials for the wing cradle and also to make a bending brake for the ailerons and flaps. I built one before for the tail control surfaces, but apparently I left it in Atlanta. No big deal, it’s just some 2×6 lumber and door hinges.

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Aileron stiffeners

So yeah, still no more riveting activity. Josie has been under the weather the last couple days, and as much as I’d like to go shoot some rivets, it’s not worth pushing her to help when she’s tired and/or not feeling well. No rivets is better than bad rivets. So I took last night off and then started tonight with some general housekeeping – first tidying up the area and then working up a materials list for the wing cart. Then I jumped ahead to working on the ailerons.

Task #1 is making a bunch of stiffeners, 32 to be exact. The good news here vs doing this for the elevators is that all the stiffeners are the same, instead of having various lengths. But like all the other stiffeners, they come in long angle pieces that have to be cut down to size and trimmed:

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I started out using the bandsaw to make the taper cuts at the ends, but I was about halfway through when a loud thud erupted from inside the thing. Seems the blade broke – maybe I shouldn’t set it so tight. But no worries, I had a spare blade to swap in! Except it turns out I bought the wrong length blade. So I finished up the taper cuts using snips.

I almost quit for the night at that point – it was getting towards 11 – but I decided to go ahead and fire up the bench grinder to clean up the edges. I’d figured on maybe doing some of the work and then stopping, but of course I just ended up doing all the deburring, which took over an hour. But now I’ve got a nice set of stiffeners, ready to be match-drilled to the skins:

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Back rivet practice

So after last night’s back riveting debacle, I posted over at VAF to ask for help with the technique. Turns out the main issue is really cranking up the air pressure to the rivet gun. I’d turned it up a bit last night, but just a touch, like the change I make when shooting -4 rivets instead of -3s. Seems I need a lot more juice than that to overcome the extra mass of the long rivet set.

After work we went to an AOPA safety seminar, which lasted until 9 or so. After that, I decided to practice some to try and get the hang of the technique. I used a scrap stiffener angle and a chunk of my junk LE skin, drilled and dimpled them, and then tried the back riveting. I started out by shooting a few rivets agains the back rivet plate on the bench. Sending about 80 PSI to the gun makes it set the rivets much better, though even then I have to shoot for what seems like a really long time.

Once I’d set a couple that way, I clamped my practice piece in the vise and had Josie come out to hold the big bucking bar while I shot a few more, to better represent the real application of the technique. I smeared a few of those rivets, I think partially due to the work piece tending to move around and partially due to me being a little sloppy.

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Bottom line, I feel way better about the back riveting technique, so we’ll give it another try tomorrow night.

I also drilled out (for the third time) that bad rivet from last night. Upon checking the hole afterwards, it was clearly oversized by this point, so I went ahead and drilled it out to #30. That’ll get a NAS1097 rivet…which should be fun to back rivet…but whatever, we’ll make it work.

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Aileron brackets, attempted wing skin riveting

Well, we tried riveting the skins, but it didn’t go so well. More on that in a moment. I had a head start by myself – Josie had to work a little late again – so I decided to assemble the aileron hinge brackets that I primed yesterday. But first I wanted to practice some double flush riveting, since I have yet to use that technique at all. I’d done some research ahead of time, mainly wanting to learn how to properly size rivets for this technique. Not too surprisingly, the length spec is a bit shorter to allow for the countersink to be filled.

Out in the garage, I cut up one of the extra fuel access plates I had lying around and used those as a double flush test. My first attempt, I still used a too-long rivet and ended up with quite a bit of a head sticking up:

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So I made another hole, countersunk, and tried again with the next shorter rivet size. Much better, though still sticking up a bit:

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Realistically, that’s fine for this task; the plans call for normal shop heads, so even though I’m going for the double flush technique, having a bit of a shop head sticking out isn’t a huge deal. And sure enough, the rivets in the brackets came out looking quite nice:

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After shooting/squeezing the remaining rivets, I had four finished brackets:

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And then it was time for the real fun. After much reading, I’d decided to back rivet the wing skins; my logic was that this only really required a skilled person on one side of the work. Seemed more likely to turn out some nice-looking rivets. Using this technique require the use of a ridiculously long double offset back rivet set:

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Oh, and as a random aside, here are the dogs watching from inside the house, wearing their ear muffs. Yeah, we have those:

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Unfortunately, as alluded to earlier, the riveting didn’t go so well. Here’s my first attempt, with the rivet already starting to lean over. And that was after I felt like I was beating the thing to death with the gun:

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I found a problem almost immediately. See, on the other side of the skin, Josie is holding this big five-pound bucking bar against the flush head. It came with some kind of coating on the faces of the bar, which for some stupid reason I thought was supposed to stay on, but after seeing how the rivet was making a dent in it, I realized I was really wrong. With that soaking up some of the impact from the rivet gun, no wonder things weren’t going well. So I peeled the coating off the bucking bar, drilled out the rivet, and tried again.

Still didn’t go right; despite banging on the rivet way more than I felt should be necessary, it didn’t form a good head and instead just folded over a bit. Ugh.

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Clearly I need to do some more research on this technique. Maybe I need to crank up the pressure at the gun some more. I probably should have practiced on some scrap before going to town on the wing; the way thing are going, I might end up with an “oops” NAS1097 rivet in my very first hole.

One thing is for sure, this back riveting technique seems just as fraught with peril as just shooting these things the normal way. Seems pretty awkward to me as well. I might even abandon it entirely if I keep having issues during the next work session…

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