Control cable mockup

So today had a bit of an absurd theme going on. My intent going in was to install the engine control cables temporarily so I could have then in place around the engine as I worked through routing the assorted wires and stuff. What I wanted to do was to actually rig the cables to the throttle quadrant, with the hopes that I might not have to remove it later on. For various reasons, that didn’t happen.

Farce #1 came after I retrieved the throttle quadrant and cleaned it off. The next thing I needed was the cable anchor bracket, which, well, anchors the ends of the cables. I spent a full hour looking for that thing, doing the circuit around the shop (shelves? nope. big work table? nope other tables? nope. in the fuselage? nope) and gradually moving more and more stuff around, until…I found it sitting IN PLAIN SIGHT in the fuselage.

sigh

Well, at least I found it…I was getting to the point of considering just fabricating a new one, glad I didn’t have to do that. This, however, led directly into farce #2. The control cables attach to the quadrant levers with clevises and pins. I just had to find those clevises, because surely they came with the kit, right? Well, I dug through all the hardware bags I had and found nothing like that. Then I did my usual next step when I’m looking for hardware – I pulled out the kit pick lists and went through those. Sometimes this helps me know the bag number and maybe figure out where that bag might be stashed.

Well, long story short, I didn’t find any of the proper clevises in any of the pick lists. Apparently they’re not included with the kit after all, and I need to figure out the right parts and make yet another Aircraft Spruce order.

sigh again

I almost gave up on the whole thing right there, but after sitting (and yes, stewing) a bit, I realized that I was overly focused on rigging the cables to the levers. While it’d be nice to get that done, it wasn’t necessary. Just having them mounted to the cable anchor would be enough to see what the routing would look like. Any adjustments at the anchor to fit up with the levers wouldn’t make any real difference in the routing.

So I went ahead and installed the cables that way, knowing the entire time that I’d definitely be removing them again. That’s OK, it’s not like there’s anything else on the plane that hasn’t been installed repeatedly…

So here we are with the cable routing. Center cable is for the prop governor, and routes over to behind the engine. The other two are throttle and mixture, and they go under the sump to the injector servo. The eyeball fittings ensure that everything is locked down just as it would be for the real installation:

And just for fun, we can look at the cables routing through the fuselage from the firewall to the gear tower. It’s going to be a little snug in here once the scat tubing for the cabin air vent is installed:

Not pictured here: I also went back to planning the main power distribution stuff. As part of this, I modified the cable between the master and started contactors; I’d fabricated that some time ago, but I didn’t care for the routing, especially how it would interact with the other stuff I’m planning. I’m actually still thinking of replacing that cable with a copper bus bar. That would be a much more compact option, but the potential problem is that given the way the contactors are mounted, it might make maintenance difficult. The flexible cable is much easier to install here than a rigid bus bar would be. If I do the bus bar, the end result will probably be that one of the contactors will have to be removed in order to free up the bar. Which isn’t really that bad, I suppose…if I need to remove the bar, chances are it’s because I’m replacing a contactor. Anyway, more food for thought…

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Exhaust hangers

So I started today with the intent of getting some of the main power distribution stuff done, starting with one of the main ground cables. But I pretty quickly devolved into my usual state of overthinking; in this case it was due to the proximity of the ground cable routing and the exhaust. I was considering a different approach to the ground cable, but I kind of needed to know what the exhaust setup was going to look like, particularly the hangers that support the pipes near the firewall.

This is, in fact, something that Van’s recommends when working on the FWF area – to start by getting the exhaust in place, since it’s an object with a pretty fixed position, and the heat it radiates is important to consider.

So I changed gears to the exhaust. I’ve had the upper pipes in place for a while, but not the tailpipes. I did fit them some time ago and briefly tinker with the heat muss and hangers hardware, but nothing major. So today I remounted the tailpipes and started really thinking about how to arrange things.

The hangers are sort of a point of contention among builder. Specifically, there’s the question of whether they should be braced to the engine mount, or the engine itself. An important point here is that the engine mounts are nowhere near solid, so the engine is going to move relative to the mount, whether it’s shaking during startup/shutdown, or sagging under G-load. This all makes sense to me, so I was leaning towards bracing the tailpipes to the engine.

Thing is, it’s not quite that easy. First off, the hangers provided by Vetterman – which are two stainless tubes joined by a piece of high-temp hose to give some flex – are too short to reach the engine sump (the usual attach point). That’s not an automatic show-stopper, though getting past it would require me to acquire or fabricate longer tube pieces.

The real problem emerged when I temporarily put the heat muff in place. There’s really no flexibility as to where to put this, and since the hanger mounts must be behind it, the muff really restricts where the hangers can go. It’s just not possible to route a hanger from the tailpipe mount to the engine sump without it occupying the same space that the scat tubing to/from the muff will go.

So in the end, I tied the exhaust to the engine mount instead. Doing it this way means that the hangers go up, forward, and outboard to the mount, which keeps the right-hand one clear of the heat muff.

The real fun was getting through the spatial reasoning needed to put all this together, At first I thought I was going to have to tweak the bend on the tailpipe attach tabs, but it turned out that it was possible to rotate them to a position where everything worked. I had similar fun getting the forward end of the hangers to properly mate with the adel clamps on the engine mount tubes.

This is all just a temporary setup for now, but seeing how particular the arrangement of everything is, I’m definitely going to be making some match marks between the stainless tubes and the flex hose pieces, to ensure I can easily put this stuff back like it belongs.

Also, it’s worth noting in the picture below that the hangers will have hose clamps when assembled for real; obviously, without that these wouldn’t exactly be functional… I may also add a bit of a flare to the ends of the tube pieces just to help with security.

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CPI vacuum plumbing

Main thrust of the last couple of work sessions was to get that vacuum line for the CPI routed, with the general idea of wrapping up wiring-related stuff in behind the firewall. But before I got to the vacuum line, there was some more lacing to do. I’d briefly considered leaving the wiring run through the forward baggage compartment unlaced, since it’ll eventually be covered by some sort of plastic piece, but it was just too unruly for me.

Good thing I enjoy lacing so much, because it was kind of a pain in this awkward spot. Still rewarding to see things looking so tidy, though:

For the vacuum line itself, I dug out a bulkhead fitting I bought a while back for this specific purpose. After some careful consideration of the surrounding structure, I laid out the firewall hole just below the wiring fitting, drilled the hole, and installed the bulkhead fitting. I also laid out and drilled a larger hole through the forward gear tower wall, and installed a snap bushing for the vacuum line to pass through.

To route the line itself, I dug out some velcro cable ties I had lying around, and just used those to secure the vacuum line alongside the wiring harness. That should keep things tidy, but in a non-permanent way, and won’t leave any sharp zip-tie edges waiting to bite me in the future.

Finally, there was dealing with the line termination at the CPI ECU. Since I have the dual-ECU unit, I also have two vacuum ports, and so a tee fitting is needed. The fitting provided by SDS was kind of bulky, so I ended up positioning it outside the wiring harness, a couple inches away from the ECU, and routing the two stub lines above and below the harness:

In other news, I’ve been doing some thinking regarding FWF wiring routing. Way back when, I’d mocked up putting the amp shunt and main ANL fuse holder on an engine mount tube using Adel clamps. Since then, I’ve decided to add a second ANL fuse for the battery bus feed, plus I still have to mount a current sensor for that bus feed, the battery bus fuse block itself, and the E-bus alt feed relay. I haven’t fully fleshed this idea out yet, but I think I’m going to fab up a mount plate for all that stuff and mount it to the firewall with standoffs, kind of like how I did the battery box mount. Still got to think that one through some more, though, especially what the wire routing will look like.

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Finishing some harnesses

Today’s job was to get the inside harnesses done. To review, I was waiting on being able to route the coil pack and crank sensor harnesses from the engine bay back tp the CPI ECU. I pulled those through a few weeks ago, but had started working on other FWF stuff before deciding that it made more sense to finish the harnesses inside; that way I’d know exactly how much slack I had to work with to route stuff around the engine.

So I started out today by finishing cleaning up all the avionics I removed a while back, and reinstalling it all. Technically I only needed the ECU, but I kinda figured I’d do a better job with everything in place, so I just went all the way. Then I dug out the CPI manual and installed the various pins into the appropriate plugs.

That just left the part of the job that I (unironically) really enjoy: lacing up the harnesses. This is one of those things that you’d think would be tedious, but I just get sort of Zen about it, plus it’s satisfying to watch unorganized forests of wire turn into nice tidy harnesses. Now this entire area near to top of the right gear tower is done:

Well…mostly. It’s not technically electrical, but I do need to route an engine vacuum line to the ECU as well. I have a bulkhead fitting to install in the firewall, and I’ll need to also add a hole through the gear tower for that line. I imagine I’ll route it alongside the harness here, but not quite sure how. Lacing probably isn’t a good idea, as it’d probably kink the vacuum line and cause a problem. I might just break down here and use zip ties, even though they’re not my favorite thing. Gotta think about that one some more.

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Firewall passthroughs and baffle bracing…again

Nice to have a Friday off where I can get in some good work. Yeah, the theme is identical to last time, I didn’t feel like trying to come up with a more clever title.

First up was moving forward with that baffle brace. I made some measurements and marks on my cardboard template for some stuff I wanted to tweak, then laid out and made the first bend. The final piece will have two bends, but I decided I didn’t need that complexity for the template. A better idea was to just keep trimming it until it touched the baffle at the desired spot – mostly I just wanted a basic template for bending the metal later.

When I was satisfied with that, I started laying things out on the actual material. As before, I started with the two bolt holes, since they’re by far the most critical dimension. Then it was just a lot of measuring and drawing and so on, followed by a lot of work with the band saw/Dremel/files/etc.

Bending was even more fun. I should have been smarter about this; instead of camping the piece to a table with lumber, I clamped it straight in the vise. This was good in terms of holding the piece securely while I beat on it with a hammer, but it left some marks from the jaws that I’ll need to clean up. And of course the bending required some trial and error, with repeated fits on the engine until I was satisfied.

For the final act, I laid out and cut a couple lightening holes. This still will need to have the screw holes drilled in assembly with the baffle, but for now it sits in place nicely:

With that buttoned up, I turned my attention back to the firewall passthroughs. I popped into the local hardware store last week and bought some longer stainless screws, which I judged to be perfectly fine for this non-structural use. After drilling and preparing the screw holes in the firewall, attaching the passthrough just required coating the backside with fire stop sealant before actually putting the screws in. Getting the nuts on these screws wasn’t much fun, but I got it done. I did both the right- and left-side passthroughs, even though for the moment I’ll mostly be working with the right-side one.

Next up I got to fish all the harness wires through the fitting – very carefully, so as to not disturb the tape flags on each wire. I’d really rather not have to trace a circuit to figure out what a wire was if I lost a flag. I also went ahead and put the outer firesleeve stub in place.

The final bit of work for the day was to fish the CPI2 ignition harness wires through the fitting. Since these are pre-terminated on the firewall side, it’s necessary to fish them back into the cabin, and thence into the area of the avionics shelf. This was also a slightly tense moment, as I got to find out if the harness lengths I estimated when ordering the system were going to work. The good news is that everything reaches, though there’s a lot less slack than I might have expected.

As usual for wiring in progress, it looks messy now, but soon the routing and tidying will begin:

Next, I think I need to finish cleaning the avionics shelf and get it reinstalled in the fuse. That’s so I can finish terminated the CPI2 harness, then work on lacing that part of the harness up to the firewall. Then I’ll know exactly how much slack I have up front to start routing wires around to sensors and so forth.

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Firewall passthroughs, baffle bracing

So…what I’ve really been wanting to work on has been the firewall passthroughs for electrical stuff. Specifically, I wanted to get the fitting installed on the right side of the firewall so I could pull the wiring bundle through and start working on routing the ignition wiring back into the cabin.

When I looked at the fittings I bought, and read the instructions, I saw they specified #6 stainless screws for attachment, or stainless pop rivets. Given how tight things are inside the cabin where these fittings would attach, I really wanted to go the rivet route, and so I spent way too much time trying to find any 9/64” stainless pop rivets, to no avail. I also considered sizing up to 5/32” – a much more common size – but all the rivets I could find had too much grip length.

So I resigned myself to the screws. Before ordering from Spruce, I worked up a few other parts I needed, in a vain attempt to save on shipping. Critically, when it came time to place the order, I wasn’t sure the right screw length. But I thought to myself, “these are only going through two thin pieces of stainless, the shortest length is probably right.”

You can probably guess where this is headed. I got the attach holes for the fitting drilled into the firewall, grabbed one of my new screws, and…oh my, that’s way too short. The screws aren’t even long enough to get full engagement from a lock nut with no material in between, much less my two pieces of stainless and a washer.

Welp, time to move on to something else until I can grit my teeth and either order from Spruce again or just buy some hardware screws locally. Fortunately, I had another task I’d been thinking on – how to brace the baffles at the back of the engine. I’ve mentioned this a bit before – the baffle kit comes with a brace that attaches to the case bolts and holds the baffles in place, but I can’t use that because my ignition coil pack will be mounted there.

I’d ginned up a few possible ideas, none of which I liked much, but then a couple weeks ago I saw a photo with a brilliant solution. Instead of bracing from the front, using the case bolts, this person was bracing from the rear, using the top two bolts on the accessory case. The brace itself looked relatively simple to fabricate, and I’ve got some scrap .063 stock lying around that would be perfect for this.

The main challenge for fabricating and fitting this would be the work space – on the back of the engine, near the engine mount, and up at about my shoulder level with the plane on the gear. Visible here – with that annoying mount in the foreground – are the two bolts that will anchor the brace:

The first fun part if figuring out the spacing of those bolt holes, since obviously the brace has to be drilled to match them. Trying to measure this with all the stuff around was going to be a real pain, but after some more thinking, I came up with an idea: a simple shop-made measuring tool. I cut a couple strips of scrap, drilled 1/4” holes in one end of each, and a 1/8” hole in the other end. A cleco through the smaller hole acted as a pivot, and a third 1/8” hole in one piece anchored a final piece of stock. That final piece made a sort of “A” shape, allowing the tongs to be fixed in a relative position.

Then I just bolted the ends to the case, clamped my crossbar in place, and I had a template for those two holes:

Easy to measure this over on the bench, and…very nice of Lycoming to make the bolt hole spacing exactly three inches:

Using that measurement, I started working on a cardboard template. First step was to just locate the bolt holes and lay out the surrounding shape to clear the accessory case, then I did a trial fit to make sure that my bolt hole spacing and the surrounding shape would work out. Seems good to me:

That was the end of the night’s work. Next will be the more-fun task of roughly locating the two bends I’ll need to get this piece touching the baffle, and then will come the real fun of starting to replicate this thing in aluminum and getting it to fit right.

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More cleaning, plus electrical planning

When we left off last time, I’d discovered a bounty of mud dauber nests after removing the forward upper skin. I decided to take a sort of thorough approach to cleaning this up, even though who knows how many new nests will get built this spring. To do this, I essentially tore apart all the avionics behind the panel – removing each component in turn, cleaning it off, and then finally removing the avionics shelf itself. Yup, pretty dirty:

From there I segued into…thinking a lot about what to do next. The routing for the ignition and fuel flow wiring through the baffles was the driver for doing the baffle work, and I’ve been looking at those, but I think I’ve got more stuff to worry about. Previously I’d just bought one two-hole wire grommet to accommodate the wires going through the baffles, and convinced myself that was fine, but after doing some more tinkering, I think I’m going to order another one. All in all, I need to pass through the four-wire bundle for the ignition coil, a three-wire shielded bundle for the fuel flow sensor, and two shielded four-wire bundles for the crank sensor. After some trial fitting I’m thinking I want to do one passthrough hole for each, rather than trying to combine them.

There’s also the question of routing the crank sensor wires through the baffles on the forward side. I think I’m going to just have to drill a hole and use a snap bushing there, unless I decide to route those wires under the cylinders…which would preclude the need for a second passthrough grommet as mentioned above, but would also put those wires down in the hot area near the exhaust. It would also sort of undermine the work I did to protect the wires from damage from a thrown alternator belt. But I dunno, the area where I’d need to drill that hole through the forward baffle is pretty tight…I’ve got to think on this some more, and probably eventually just tell myself to stop waffling and pick a direction…

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Removing and cleaning skins

Tonight as just laying the groundwork for getting back into wiring-related work. The first step for that was getting the forward upper skin and baggage door removed. I last installed these when I was getting started on the cowl, and because of the way the upper right firewall sort of floats relative to the baggage door, I made liberal use of duct tape to hold everything in place.

Problem is, that was…checks notes…oh wow, almost two years ago. Unsurprisingly, the duct tape did not come off cleanly:

Handling the residue wasn’t too awful, though. I put an old towel over the affected areas, wet it liberally with acetone, and left it to soak for fifteen minutes or so. After that, the residue scraped off easily with a plastic razor. Some scrubbing with an acetone-soaked rag took care if the final cleanup, and things were looking nice again:

I repeated that step on some other parts as well, though I still need to clean up the actual forward upper skin.

And of course, this being Texas, opening up the area behind the panel exposed a few mud dauber nests that needed to be cleaned up, like this rather impressive bit of engineering that was attached to one of my voltage regulators:

That was it for tonight – next I can maybe move on to more practical work.

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Baffles: More trimming

This post starts eerily last the last one…in the day or two after that last session, I spent an hour or two working on finishing the trimming of the rear side baffles. Never wrote anything up about it, since I’d probably be doing more the next day…or the next…or…well, you get the idea. Also, I apparently didn’t take a single picture while working on those baffles. Huh.

Anyway, here we are today, where I picked up on the task of trimming the rear baffles, which runs along the aft side of the engine. I’d previously drawn a first hack a trim line, way back when I put paper clips on the entire assembly, but I decided to fine-tune that a bit before making my first cuts. Since I had the rear side baffles done, I could use those to mark where the intersecting pieces should be cut at the corners. Basically I marked those junction points and sort of made a freehand hack at tweaking the trim lines. I was, of course, pretty conservative while doing this – as ever, it’s a lot harder to put material back than to take it off.

That first trim was, indeed, very conservative – I still wasn’t able to get the upper cowl all the way seated. Things were much batter after the second trim – I was able to get the cowl in place and the pins installed. A peek through the oil door shows all those paper clips:

After marking yet another trim line, then doing all the trimming/filing/deburring/etc, I reinstalled everything for one more test fit. Now we can see how the baffles have the specified 3/8” clearance to the cowl – this clearance will later be taken up by the rubber seal material:

So that takes care of most of the baffle trimming. Wait, that’s not all? Afraid not. There will be another vertical baffle section just behind the prop hub, which will also need to go through this whole paper clip exercise too. And once that’s done, I’ll probably paper clip the entire perimeter and do one final clearance check all around, just for good measure.

I don’t think I’m going to do that right now, though. I think it’s time to finally remove that forward upper skin…along with what I’m sure will be some really stubborn duct tape adhesive residue. That stuff’s been on there for a couple summers now, and there’s no way it’s going to come off without some liberal application of acetone. But once that’s off, I can resume work on electrical systems, which I’m kind of looking forward to as a change from fiberglass and baffle fiddling.

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Baffles: Let the trimming begin!

So…as I start typing this, it looks like I missed documenting some work a couple weeks ago. There was some time spent fabricating a conical gusset to close out the square corner I mentioned at the end of my previous post, but I guess I didn’t take any pictures. I’ll have to try and sneak them into a later post, I guess.

After doing that work, I almost let myself get distracted by the air intake snorkel, which has to meet up with the left inlet ramp…but then I remembered the main reason I’m in here, which is to get the baffles trimmed so I can work on FWF wiring. And so I moved on to working on that trimming work.

The basic deal is that the upper portion of the baffles need to be trimmed to provide 3/8-1/2” of clearance with the upper cowl. Later, rubberized seal material will be riveted in place, which will, well, seal against the cowl. This is a somewhat annoying task in any case, and more annoying in my case since I don’t have an RV-8-specific baffle kit. My baffles are intended for a side-by-side aircraft, which means there’s even more trimming to do than in a normal case.

Anyway, there’s a pretty universal approach to this trimming task, which involves putting a bazillion paper clips across the top of the baffles, then laying the cowl in place, then using the disturbed paper clips to see the contour of the cowl and work on trimming the baffles to fit. The pictures I’ve seen have people doing the entirety of the baffles at once, but this seemed overcomplicated to me, especially for the initial trim.

So I started with just the forward side baffles. These need the most trimming of anything; they need to match the curve of the upper inlet ramps, which means 1) removing a lot of material and 2) matching a surface that’s way more curved than the rest of the cowl.

Here’s a pic looking in the front of the cowl from my first fitting attempt. You can see that the top of the baffle is straight, unlike the curved ramp, and as a result only a small area of the paper clips have been pushed down. You might also notice the huge amount of open space to the right, between the cowl halves, The upper cowl is nowhere close to sitting in place:

After a couple iterations of trimming those forward side baffles, I decided that having hacked out most of that curved ramp area would make it OK to try fitting the whole thing. So I installed all the baffles and then put paper clips all the way around. In case you’re wondering, there are 190 of them. Yes, I counted:

The really fun part is that 15 minutes after taking that picture, I removed all those clips again, after marking the first conservative cut line all around… Also, because the cowl was back to not being anywhere near sitting in the right place, and especially because that made it hard to get the orientation right, I knew these cuts wouldn’t get me far.

So after this iteration, I went back to doing a sort of piecemeal fitting, starting with getting those forward side baffles trimmed to the proper length (as opposed to “kinda close” like before). Below you can (hopefully) see the little hash marks I made at each paper clip location; this is the beginning of laying out the cut line:

A nice little game of “connect the dots” results in a trim line:

I think it was after cutting to that line – or maybe there was one more iteration, I can hardly keep track – I was finally able to get the upper cowl in place. Peeking in the inlet, we can see that there’s still more trimming to do; the gap at the very front of the inlet is good, but where it curves up, it’s still too close:

I did decide that this was the right time to add the rear side baffles into the mix. The left rear side baffle shows the contrast between the trimmed and untrimmed state:

I did go ahead and get the initial trim done on those rear side baffles, but that was when I called it a night. I’d done enough repeated installation and removal of paper clips for one day.

Next up I’ll get those rear side baffles trimmed to where the cowl will sit in place, then I’ll move on to the rear baffles…and after that I guess I’ll do paper clips all around again so I can get the final trim done.

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